I find it ridiculous that "stress" causes this kind of outrage. Xtrullor, thru out history all artists have stress. But most of them don't use that to outrage on a community which basically made you known. Have you ever, played Geometry Dash? I ask because look at the downloads of each level using YOUR music. Look at those numbers...big numbers aren't they? And you turn that all away over stress? Let me ask you...did it ever come to mind that doing what you did could cause all us GD players that love your music too basically feel turned away? Like you never wanted us to hear your music in the first place. Judging by your only reason for you to keep GD out of your music career, you really wanted out a long time ago. You need to tell us your reason for what you did. Because if it's just stress...man music isn't for you.
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Well, perhaps stress isn't Xtrullor's reason. Cank above you has delineated some fairly reasonable possibilities that should be considered.
I know Xtrullor. I don't want to speak for him, but last time I checked he doesn't give a crap about fame or any of that stuff. He mainly makes music for himself, not for his audience.
Are you aware of why artists like Xtrullor despise this community? Remember, you guys judge yourself by your intentions, but we judge you by your actions. In my personal experience, heavy GD use has only offered me unceasing spam. Also, a large chunk of the GD community is comprised of selfish, immature brats who complain about everything. However, I support the use of my music in GD because that's not all that defines me.
However, Xtrullor is different. Right now, Geometry Dash essentially defines him. And he doesn't want that association anymore - it's harming his career.
I know I'm ranting again, so I should probably stop. But yeah. Xtrullor, if you read this, please consider what these people are saying. If they're really just selfish brats, then ignore them away. But if there is some truth behind what they are saying, like this post by Michicron here, give them some true consideration.
I think Xtrullor has justified himself. He says that he has thought about it for a year, and states how much stress the community causes him. It is his music, and it's amazing that he keeps it free for everyone. He can do whatever he wants with it,
I'm going to do the same thing I did for the last guy and refer you to the comment above you. Read Michicron's post.
Michicron delineates the perspective of the GD community right now. They say, GD has made you popular and appreciates your music, so why do you go and rage on them all of a sudden? They say this because Xtrullor really hasn't provided a solid reason. Stress? Everyone has stress. Stress is not a reason to berate your fans. Stress is not a reason to blatantly insult those who have supported you.
Xtrullor needs to talk about why the GD community is giving him so much stress. He needs to delineate everything that the GD community is doing wrong so that maybe, if he's lucky, half of them can get their act together. But currently, Xtrullor hasn't done much to make the situation clear, and so people are still confused about his sudden change in career and attitude.
I'm replying to your last reply, infinity. The Geometry Dash can be very cancerous/annoying and selfish. But that's only what artists see. Like anyone who creates music or any entertainment, the only views you see are those who give out a negative review because that's what judges your instinct. I think Xtrullor might have it where he only sees people taking him for granted and that's it. Like I said, many people love his music, HIS ART!! I think the problem is people only know him from GD...no one takes his talent seriously because he belongs to GD only...(that's what he's thinking). He needs to realize...we need to show him that GD isn't all he is. It's not even close! But rather than dissing the GD community whose loved your work for quite some time, explain yourself. Express your feelings. Because only then...will the real fans start to listen.
I agree completely. Xtrullor needs to speak his mind for anything to get resolved. Otherwise, there will always be a continuous split between the clashing perspectives of the GD player and the artist.
I honestly feel terrible for Xtrullor. He's stuck between a rock and a hard place with annoying comments and hatred on both sides. If he releases all of his tracks to GD and he continues to be like he was a few months ago, he would still receive cancerous comments from the GD community about his work. I'd like to address this comment from H20studios (taken from his latest post) and his response to it.
"It was also noticeable that it was driving you insane as well. Just listen to the Nine Circles Remix and Palace Theme remixes to see what I mean; A pretty big drop in quality in my opinion."
Xtrullor responds:
Huh, finally someone noticed the toll it took on my mind through my tracks.
However, if he decides to remove all of his tracks in order for a better future, there would be more hatred thrown his way. With more insults, he could see the same symptoms as he would with the cancerous comments. As someone who's in the GD community, this could definitely be a possibility. There could be more respect for him beyond the GD community, but it would come at the cost of rude comments on all mediums where his music is available (Soundcloud, Newgrounds, YouTube, etc.). It's a shame that he has both at the moment. If he had neither rude or cancerous comments, this whole situation would be avoided. I wish I could apologize on behalf of the GD community, but I'm part of a small majority of mature people within it. Let's hope we get a response from him soon.
@EDM364 Any thoughts on whether now is the time to make that petition I was talking about?
I personally want to say I think it's ABUNDANTLY clear why @Xtrullor is fed up with GD players. The vast majority we hear crying are immature pricks who upload stolen music and/or treat our craft as something other than art. The creator is taken for granted, and the music is viewed through the same lens as a toddler does a toy his mother tells him he can't have -- so he bitches until she gives in and buys it. "Off-brand" and newbie artists are treated like shit by the GD community, and name-brand artists like Xtrullor and @ThisisTheFatRat are harassed constantly to upload songs and enable downloads -- if users don't outright steal their music, and in the event that happens, they blame the artists. @Rukkus impersonators aren't uncommon either. We had a guy yesterday under the name of @Sukkur who used stolen music to get scouted. Who else does this but the GD community?
They treat us musicians and producers like a commodity, bringing MLG spam and sonaural elitism to the fore that we used to never have on site, commenting on people's voice reels "this is why RobTop should have partnered with SoundCloud". Seriously, not everyone who plays GD is a prick, but the community is by and large CANCER. Some of these guys steal shit, get banned, revenge flag my legitimate content (fruitlessly), zero bomb my shit, and fire off passive aggressive little posts/mails because they think they should be able to steal whatever they want, don't understand how our site works or its history, and think they're doing something.
Xtrullor has the right to restrict whatever and whoever he wants from downloading his content, specifically abusers like those two reviewers you mentioned, who are breaking the rules, btw. There is not one iota of right on their end. I wish he'd be a little more polite about it, but if I were constantly harassed by the same community that stole all my shit too, I'd get tired of hearing about it, and Xtrullor is being ATTACKED for defending himself -- for denying the people that abuse his work the ability to do that. I have half a mind to disable downloads on all my content too, but that would punish my actual fans... Really though, I have a lot of vitriol saved up, and I'm not even sorry for all the justifiable bits I spew out.
In closing, fuck GD. I will never play it, not after what I've seen. I don't want to be associated with these guys. Xtrullor, keep riding. Your real fans support you. The toddlers are just throwing their toys out the pram because they can't handle the truth. @Troisnyx, I will always be ready to sign that petition. You just let me know and I will put that on blast.
Hey, EDM. Thanks for dropping by - and, well, you said it best. There's no more that I can add to your rant to further clarify that the GD community is absolute trash.
Also, @Michicron, the GD community did not make @Xtrullor known. He's been around a long time. The GD community took notice of him and abused his shit to the point it drove him basically nuts, and they do this to every artist they think is A1 primo. He owes you all nothing. You owe him a debt of gratitude and respect.
@EDM364 I did my best. Feel free to suggest improvements.
https://www.change.org/p/google-inc-apple-google-remove-geometry-dash-from-your-stores?recruiter=669684809&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
I'm signing that.
@Troisnyx, you've said everything anyone could have said, has said, and more. Anyone else on this page who agrees, check out the petition here.
https://www.change.org/p/apple-google-remove-geometry-dash-from-your-stores?recruiter=573544568&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
"The bigger problem about GD community is that it's potentially going to kill the Newgrounds site due to a drownage of lawsuits from uploading licensed music that is not their own.
I would rather take the shit that is thrown at me than see NG die. I support GD to be unable to use Newgrounds' music any longer, and I'm starting from myself.
Seeing the response I get from my decision is quite a spectacle to see. It has further deepened my stance on this problem. Who wants to comply with a person who screams at you when he can't get their toy - in this case my music. That's what a huge part of GD is, and it should not be ignored."
xTrullor's reasoning on Jnana (first comment)
hey man, thanks for writing this, but is't no big deal, i didn't take it too hard and now i know he's going through a bad time. but still... thanks ;)
Hey! Glad we actually got all this resolved :D
im a GD player. but i am not a prick. xtrullor i love your music. but. it just felt like your being a straight up jerk to players like me.
Firstly, this post isn't relevant anymore. It's more than a year old and the drama has already passed.
Secondly, if you felt like Xtrullor was being a jerk to you, just imagine how much he felt from multiple members in the GD community. Even if you're not a prick as you say, some of your fellow players certainly are. That's why this whole situation happened.
I know this is very old, but I remember the first time he said this when I still played GD. I don't think I was ever that angry at a producer given the fame he got from GD, and giving us a middle finger between the face.
But now that I don't play GD, and I've matured a good bunch, I can see why Xtrullor did what he did to the GD community. He doesn't care about fame or recognition. He is extremely skilled in music theory. He didn't want this, never asked for it, this "GD FAME". He himself has also taken an understanding of the situation quite a time ago. Xtrullor is an inspiration to many people around the world, be it GD or anywhere else. I wait for his upcoming work in excitement, as I replay his songs on my old mp3 :) [ And of course your music too ;) ]
Hey man :) Yeah this fiasco boiled over a long time ago, it came to a point where it really involved a whole lot more than just Xtrullor himself. It was a shitshow. But it was really only with that shitshow that we managed to get a ton of really good changes to the way the AP interacts with GD. What happened to Xtrullor really needed to happen at some point, or else nothing would have changed. And I guess thank you for being receptive to that.
Xtrullor did the right thing. What he said "Fuck you GeometryDash", it is his opinion. No one can ever dictate someone's point of view, because all of us have different perspective and perception of what we see.
But on the other side, what he said is very offensive, especially for a "community". Even for me, both a producer and a GD player, I am supposed to be hurt. But I can tell, the ones who are offensed, are the ones who are stupid and dumb-founded. But since I also value intelligence and sophistication, I may also be with Xtrullor's side. Personally, I hate pathetics.
I hope I may not sound too arrogant. I only want to share my feedback about this incident. But here it is, X seemed to moved on to this tragedy, so do I.
I'm a late bloomer LOL!
In addition, X is a mysterious genius! He is very perplex even in his author comments, usually has secret meanings. He doesn't care about money or fame, the most important thing to him is making and producing music for his hobby. Also, he is enlightened by his Asian experience.
Lastly, maybe, he unpublished his songs for a reason. Maybe to wake up Dashers that they are doing wrong. Thanks!
BlueAlpha14
Send this to Keemstar.
Onefin
Is Keemstar Xtrullor? In that case I already did